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Old Jul 07, 2005, 06:16 PM // 18:16   #21
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I believe Britain has had its share of dealing with "terrorist" style attacks for a while due to Ireland/Scotland/Britain relations. (reference IRA for example) I believe they have a much more fine-tuned ability to deal with incidents such as this through practice, which is being shown by their terrific handling of this.

May God have mercy on the victims and the people of London.

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Old Jul 07, 2005, 06:23 PM // 18:23   #22
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The British have something of a national legacy to live up to with this. If you listen to some of the old Edward Murrow broadcasts during the Nazi air bombing of London, most of what he talks about is how the civilians take walks and eat out like nothing is going on.
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Old Jul 07, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05   #23
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The British have something of a national legacy to live up to with this. If you listen to some of the old Edward Murrow broadcasts during the Nazi air bombing of London, most of what he talks about is how the civilians take walks and eat out like nothing is going on.
So true. Brits have a great sense of composure. It is still quite legendary, though I don't know if the stereotype still applies as much as it used to. But still!
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Old Jul 07, 2005, 09:10 PM // 21:10   #24
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So true. Brits have a great sense of composure. It is still quite legendary, though I don't know if the stereotype still applies as much as it used to. But still!
If you went outside while all this was going on in London, you'd be surprised to find the exact same thing going on.

People still going about there day to day business, with just a concern for those more unfortunate victims. We know there is a problem there, but we don't let it deter what we are doing.
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Old Jul 07, 2005, 09:16 PM // 21:16   #25
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well you would probably have people out walking around here too, unfortuanately they would be trying to catch a glimpse of the carnage though

not making a joke about it, thats the way it is , but anyways that sucks that people want to harm other people for their own little religion/lifestyle/insanity whatever you want to call it, hopefully they catch whoever was responsible and take em somewhere that torture is allowed...........
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Old Jul 07, 2005, 10:21 PM // 22:21   #26
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http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/show...6&postcount=25

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Old Jul 07, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #27
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Personally, I think it's time Britian did something against this kind of crap. I mean, why should they have to deal with it? It's not like the UK ever took a dump on the Al Quadia's deck.
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Old Jul 07, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53   #28
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Here is my two sence.

I think the Best (and maybe only) why most of all of us ordinary people can deal with things like Bombings and the such is not to let them change the way we go about our lives. Dont let "them" (and them can be anybody you want them to be) win be making you afraide to take the subway, a plane, a trane, or whatever. That is why I have great Respect fo all of you brits out there for doing just that today and all the other times thing like this happen. I live in Ohio and love the US But after 9/11 the first thing everbody said after the towers fell was " Is it a terror attack" I am not bashing anybody but I I not letting anybody change to way I live either.

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Old Jul 08, 2005, 06:54 AM // 06:54   #29
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I know the media puts a lot of propaganda out there concerning what Americans do or do not think. However, let me say this: I, and every one I know, even on our talk radio stations, are pro Great Britian, and we love you guys!!!!

Please don't forget that! My heart is broken for your loss.
Totally reciprocated.

These 'acts' are forging acquaintances into friends and friends into brothers and sisters.
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #30
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Totally reciprocated.

These 'acts' are forging acquaintances into friends and friends into brothers and sisters.
Absolutely.

If there is anything good to be taken from the rise in terrorist attacks its the improvement in relationships between western countries. Adversity seems to be bringing us closer together.
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #31
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Personally, I think it's time Britian did something against this kind of crap. I mean, why should they have to deal with it? It's not like the UK ever took a dump on the Al Quadia's deck.
And what should they do? Nuke the whole middle east?

We, who by privilege of birth and through no actions of our own, belong to the small minority of humans on this world who do not live lives that are ruled by poverty and violence. Sometimes somebody gets jealous and attacks us. These attacks are cowardly and their victims never did any harm to the aggressors, so we are unable to understand or forgive them (Eventhough the very religion that is the core of our culture preaches forgiveness to our enemies).

But what should our leaders do in the face of such attacks? Cause even more death and suffering in the world, thereby hastening the spiral of death and violence? Use these incidents to enforce their own twisted visions of security on us, taking away all the freedom that past generations fought to wrest from the unjust regimes that governed their lives?

I have no friends or aquaintances in london, but I still feel a certain amount of sympathy with the victims and their friends and families. But not more so than I feel toward every other member of my species that is suffering for unjust reasons due to no fault of their own. Which still is quite a lot (before you ask, yes I do have problems sleeping at night sometimes...).

But we should not get blinded by hate or thoughts of revenge. It was a criminal act and deserves to be investigated, the guilty parties to be found out and put in front of a fair trial. Everything else is admitting defeat. Going to war and spreading more suffering, cutting civil rights and liberties, all these things cause us to do exactly what the criminals want: To change our way of life, to corrupt our very society (not that it isn't corrupted more than enough).

Again, my heartfelt sympathy to everyone in london. I won't pray for you or your dead, since I'm an atheist, but if I'm wrong about my belief, then your victims will now have more peace then they had in life.
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 11:21 AM // 11:21   #32
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Heard about it last night, I'm really sorry for u guys.

I live in Isreal, I kinda know what it's like.
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 11:24 AM // 11:24   #33
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Seems rather odd to me that everyone seems rather calm today...I mean half the underground is running and people aren't that scared to go out or go to work it seems.
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 11:35 AM // 11:35   #34
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Seems rather odd to me that everyone seems rather calm today...I mean half the underground is running and people aren't that scared to go out or go to work it seems.
Which is a great Way to show Terrorist Orginizations that Terror Fails to shake the british soul. plus, do u really think they'll bomb the Underground again only one day later?
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 11:44 AM // 11:44   #35
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well, er... how can I say this without derailing it...?

I live in Manchester, but a few of my parents have relatives in London and are still wondering whether they are still safe or not. Unlike that disaster that happened a few weeks ago concerning the policing in most areas, we still need more countermeasures to prevent such things from happening again. Even with or without the police, everyone (and yes, I ask this myself) must ask themselves this vital point ALL of the time in their lives:

"Could this be the centre of attacks, and should I see whether they have dangerous equipment?"

EVERYWHERE is full of terrorists and heroes, regardless of town, country and area. There are areas in which I think should be improved:


1. X-Ray scanning. Usually used in airports, I think this MUST be mandatory in all cars and buildings, as the police can utilise these cameras to tell the people in that vehicle, building or area to evacuate that area immediately in case if it explodes, or it is a dud.


2. Personal Awareness. I am extremely aware about things ever since September 11, since that was the first trigger which has started this "World War" off. Firstly, ALL parents should notice what time their kids and teenagers come out. And if this ID thing comes out in the UK, to show where the louters and gangs go and cause trouble, and to stop them before it comes chaotic.

Also, if there are any sharp objects, solvents or "odd" items, they should ask what it is for. If it's used as a weapon, then either get out of the vehicle, area or building and contact the police anywhere, because those few seconds can make or break lives.

There are also Concealed buildings that could be the centre of making terrorists. They could be either in town, or in a peaceful area. If anyone goes in and sees what happens, don't panic. People must keep calm, and talk to the police whenever they are safe.


and 3. Trusting Parents and neighbours, even politics. I know that what the politics have done are some stinkers, but they, and we ourselves, are human like us after all. We are bound to make mistakes.

We should, and must trust each other more often, and if a "attack" arises, to protect ourselves in this time of danger. If we are far apart, then it is our fault for becoming as "them", and only time will tell if it makes or breaks our whole world from this atrocity.

We must stand and unite in this darkened time, so such demoralising times can be avoided in future times, if and if it ever happens again, so that Terrorism is bought to a standstill and peace is kept all around the world.

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Old Jul 08, 2005, 12:21 PM // 12:21   #36
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Seems rather odd to me that everyone seems rather calm today...I mean half the underground is running and people aren't that scared to go out or go to work it seems.
Brits have that attitude. I just got an email from a friend who lives/works in London and she's very blase about the whole thing. She said it's a bit eerie in that some businesses are closed but that it's pretty much "business as usual" for her and her company.

The best way to combat terrorism isn't nuking the middle east. It's continuing to live and work and play and go on without crouching and wailing. The continuance of life in the face of adversity is what will eventually stop them.

Prayers again to those who lost loved ones.
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 12:57 PM // 12:57   #37
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Seems rather odd to me that everyone seems rather calm today...I mean half the underground is running and people aren't that scared to go out or go to work it seems.
This might help explain that.... link
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Old Jul 08, 2005, 01:00 PM // 13:00   #38
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What else can you do but try and carry on? I think that's the view most people here would give you.

The other options (panic, despair and especially vengeance) get you nowhere positive. Obviously some are no longer here to carry on and our thoughts are with them and people who knew them, for survivors and others affected: the same, we think of them as they try to carry on and regain a sense of normaility in thier lives, as while life around them may retun to normality quickly, for them things will never be quite the same.

As always when such events occur it is only right to thank the emergency services for their efforts, which often go unthanked.
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Shamblemonkee, I completely agree, and don't forget my post (#35) on my ideas. will they actually improve it around the world?

Also, I would like to thank the emergency services as well, because without these demos, we would have had a worse problem than what has happened
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pfft, codswallop!

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